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BP: Hmm, well normally from a political science and polling perspective the majority of undecided voters vote against the incumbent so it is just as likely, if not more likely, that the undecideds would favour Puea Thai over the Democrats. Polls before the 2007 General Election showed the Democrats leading Puea Thai so there was not a general swing for the Democrats in the final weeks. If anything, there was a swing away from the Democrats although that was partly the Thaksin fever of the final weeks of polling which may not be replicated again. On the poll in question, it was an ABAC poll surveying 5,470 people in between January 20-February 5 in 28 provinces (กรุงเทพมหานคร สระบุรี ปทุมธานี สมุทรปราการ นครนายก สระแก้ว ชลบุรี ขอนแก่น อำนาจเจริญ ศรีสะเกษ อุบลราชธานี เลย หนองคาย กาฬสินธุ์ เพชรบูรณ์ พะเยา เชียงราย เชียงใหม่ อุทัยธานี สุโขทัย สมุทรสาคร ราชบุรี นครปฐม สุราษฎร์ธานี นครศรี ธรรมราช ยะลา ปัตตานีและสงขล). Question 1. Do you support Abhisit or do you support other politicians?
Breakdown by region:
BP: None of these figures are particularly surprising. Question 2: If there was an election today, who would you cast your party list vote for?
Breakdown by region:
BP: You will see that Abhisit beats other politicians, but other parties beat the Democrats (i.e. Abhisit does better than his party), but it is interesting that the drop in the undecideds from question 1 (46.5 percent) to question 2 (36.9 percent) results in the Abhisit to Democrat vote remaining mostly the same with 90 percent of those who are undecided about which politician to support deciding to vote for the "other parties". This is not to say the other parties will pick up 90 percent of the remaining undecideds, they won't, but it is still interesting. Annoyingly, ABAC didn't specify the "other parties" into individual parties. It should be remembered that at the 2007 General Election that the Democrats and the pro-Thaksin PPP were neck-and-neck on the party list vote and it was the constituency vote where Puea Thai came ahead. Assuming the other parties vote is mainly for Puea Thai as per this recent other poll and given ABAC polls generally overstate support for the Democrats by 2-3 points, not much appears to have changed in the last two-and-a-bit years. Now, who will win the undecideds?
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I don't think he can win 240 seats, ie outright majority, but that's probably not the point of his "prediction". More likely he is talking up his government in the run up to red's last war - he needs positive images about him, his party, and the future. Note how he avoided saying "majority" and mentioned only a number. Desiring "majority" would create plenty of negative publicity - comparisons with Thaksin, authoritarian tendencies, sympathy for the underdogs and so on. He is a smart cookie, Abhisit.
Outside of their heartlands the Dems will do well to attract 240 votes never mind 240 seats. Apart from the usual roll call of party thugs and PAD fanatics, Abhisit and the Dems are now pretty much loathed throughout Isaan and the North. Smart cookie? Once again the poster above reveals the limit of their analytical skills.
Have Abhisit or Democrats ever had 13% support in Isan? That is probably double their previous numbers.
StanG: Well fortunately have the Election Commission figures for the 2007 General Election. They don't divide the party list vote totals by province or region. The country was divided up into 8 groups of provinces. Group 3 and 4 were in the Northeast and that is were the Democrats received their lowest vote numbers. Group 3: Dems received 525,934 votes out of 3,625,980 votes or 15%. Group 4: Dems received 681,617 votes out of 3,564,116 votes or 19%. This is really the upper Northeast and the provinces with urban areas Khorat and Khon Kaen are in other groups where the Democrats received higher vote totals. Spreadsheet in Thai here.
Ah, but 13% in the poll is Democrat core supporters, people who'd vote for them when there are no elections even scheduled. Come voting day and those 40% undecideds will have to make their choice one way or another. Dems only need one in ten undecideds to come and vote for them to match their 2007 results. Besides, 2007 party list is not a really fair benchmark - it was their best showing in recent history, nationwide they even beat PPP on that list. In 2005, on the other hand, for every Democrat voter were three people voting Thai Rak Thai. What was their support in Isan then? |
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