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23:59: Video from Japanese TV just after Seh Daeng was shot. 23:10 No more news about Seh Daeng's condition except that it is still serious. More shooting though. ThaiPBS reporter at red shirt rally reports sound of gunfire into reds. Saw one red lying on ground with head wound. At least one dead. Many injured. Journalist Andrew Marshall is at the scene and tweets "More gunfire. Soldiers are shooting live rounds on unarmed protesters". 21:10: TNN reports that Seh Daeng was shot by a high velocity gun. 20:25: ThaiPBS reports that CRES is currently checking news of Seh Daeng being shot, but says no news of Seh Daeng being shot on red shirt stage. 20:15: NYT reports that Seh Daeng shot while being interviewed by IHT. BP: Well, NYT and IHT are basically the same so they should know - story byline is by both their reporters in BKK. 20:10: Now Tulsahit reports National Channel has retracted that report. 20:00: From Tulsathit of The Nation states Seh Daeng is dead and this is from Nation Channel. BP: This is the only source reporting this, but have spoken to a journo who spoke to Seh Daeng's aide who confirmed Seh Daeng had been shot in the head so his death is more than a possibility. 19:45: ThaiPBS reports that Seh Daeng shot in the head and is seriously injured. UPDATE: 19:30 ThaiPBS reports that sounds of gunfire also heard near Sala Daeng intersection and was fired into the red shirts. TNN reports it was Seh Daeng who was shot. Ok, finally have some time to blog. AP:
BP: Will update this blog post throughout this evening as time permits. Q: Will blockade be successful? How long will it take? Will pressure be placed on the Crime Suppression Division to press charges against Suthep? (Note mere charges doesn't mean there will even be a court case). Will the red shirts be satisified with that? So many Qs. It is almost anyone's guess now.
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During the interview with the reporter!...if this sniper was a state soldier and I were an ambassador from another country I would absolutely livid. What if the sniper had missed? The we'd have had a dead NYT reporter with blood splattered everywhere. Wonder if Amb. John (perfect name for an Amb. to Thailand by the way) will lodge any protest given that the journalist is an American. Just goes to show how much the Abhisit government cares about the media and protecting journalist safety. Who is the assassin?
Bangkok Post's version of Seh Daeng's shooting: "was shot and seriously wounded during a melee" The Nation's version: "The incident took place shortly before or around 7 pm, almost in parallel with a commotion in the area caused by mysterious explosions, gunshots and sounds of firecrackers". So - NYT's reporter only imagined that Seh Daeng was talking to him just 2 feet away when he was shot?
A little presumptuous to assume the shooter was from the government side isn't it? 'Taking out' Seh Daeng would be beneficial to many different elements, including the saner red-shirt factions.
I would not jump to any conclusion about who shot Seh Daeng. Consider: A) The Red leadership and Thaksin and Chavalit appeared to have lost control of the man, B) the style of shooting was very similar to the shooting of the Army colonel on April1 10, and C) this government's inability to organize a booze-up in a brewery much less a precision hit. We may never know who shoot COmmander Red.
>> What if the sniper had missed?
Perfectly legal and conform to international standard (or at least China's and Burma's standard). From soft-to-hard respond, softest by starting with sniper round through the head and hardest by nuke'em up. Do Abhisit really have a wish to topple the kill-count of October massacre or something? But shooting protest leader goes both way, RED and YELLOW. Imagine if the time that PAD occupied government house during Thaksin's government, and Sondhi or Chamlong was sniped. What would the reaction of the media be? Hopefully, there would be no reciprocal counter-attack to government official. Chaos ensure in the long run.
My guess, the shooter came from the yellow side, attempting to cause chaos...then a military crackdown.
Me thinks shooting a person who is giving an interview with a sniper rifle is a dastardly act. The shooter must be condemned. His supervisor who gave the order must be identified and exposed. A guy with Oxford education must be asked to give his views on this incident.
http://www.ihtinfo.com/pdfs/IHTbio_EditorialSpokespeople.pdf Thomas Fuller serves as the IHT’s Southeast Asia correspondent, has been a reporter for the IHT since 1997. From 1995 to 1997 Mr. Fuller worked as a copy editor and reporter at Asia Times, a daily newspaper owned by the Manager Group and based in Bangkok.
Awesome shot! Why be livid? He didn't miss and a treasonous terrorist is brain dead. Win-win for everyone. Now, its going to be hard to prove it was the government. If you ask who would benefit, the answer is "the entire nation." Let's hope this "sniper diplomacy" continues to be used against the UDD leadership so we can spare the lives of these ignorant peasants unwittingly serving as meat shields for these cowards.
"B) the style of shooting was very similar to the shooting of the Army colonel on April 10," A bullet in SD's head is "very similar" to a grenade exploding next to the colonel? If you say so..... Fair point about not jumping to conclusions - and I also think it's unlikely the culprit will ever be identified. I will, though, take into account the good Col Sansern's own public statement - "Snipers will be deployed in the operation” - when considering who the candidates are.
My God have you all lost it? Especially this last comment. Since when is the loss of human life justified and "ignorant peasants". Please! It is quite clear that you have lost the argument. The result of this is no less than outright civil war! Abhisit will and shall be indicted as a war criminal along with the whole cabinet. Or are we, farang, only obfuscated when the Chinese do it in Tianam Square?
Anonymous on 05/14/2010 01:16 pm said: "Now, its going to be hard to prove it was the government. If you ask who would benefit, the answer is 'the entire nation,'" but I would rather think the government would benefit most, if Se Daeng was taken out before the crackdown.
A bullet can go both ways ...
I smell civil war in the air. And the Yellow Shirts are prepared for the fight with our brothers in green. Our actions in the past have prepared us to take over power and to restore the Kingdom to all its glory. Remember with pride when we sacked Government House. Remember with pride when we attacked the police. Remember with pride when we invaded the airports. Remember with pride all the Thai people who cheered us on. Now rise Thai patriots!! We have a list of Red Shirt supporters who live in the Cha-am and Hua Hin areas (and it is very long) and we have included foreigners as well. We will pay them a visit and give them a choice. My paramilitary friends and I call it Operation Rwanda. Long live the Land of Thais!!
@Anonymous: I can't think of a more cowardly act than shooting someone in the head from a protected sniper position while the victim is exposed on a stage and not suspecting an imminent attack. As for the government involvement, there was a Thai military spokesman on Deutsche Welle-TV last night saying the government had the right to shoot anyone dead carrying "weapon", however small and no matter if he had any intention to use it. It sounded like they admitted the shooting. And next time you sit in a restaurant with a knife in hand, better look around the rooftops. Of course today, the cowardly government denies all responsibility, just like last time they denied using live ammo against protesters. Shooting political opponents with snipers is the most vile and base employed only by thuggish, undemocratic regimes. And I don't want see the next elected government shoot the leaders of the yellows either.
Anonymous on 05/14/2010 01:16 pm Because of the thinking like this that we have a bloody Thailand today.
Annonymous: "awesome shot": thanks for that insight into the mind of a certain yellow Thai mentality (and I'm using 'mind' in it's widest possible sense here). It's nice every so often to be reminded what the Red Shirts are protesting against. btw I don't mean yellow politically.
UDD and SD especially declared war on the government and military. SD being an open traitor, and having been behind the attacks on the army on April 10th, gave the army all the justification it needed to extra-judicially execute him. It was a matter of military law, not civil, and to call it a political assassination is a cop out and quite frankly, retarded. But when has that stopped any of you?
Regardless who who actually fired the first shot, looks to me they just made Se Daeng a political martyr instead just another gun-toting fanatic ...
"It was a matter of military law, not civil, and to call it a political assassination is a cop out and quite frankly, retarded. But when has that stopped any of you?" That's interesting - specifically which military law allowed the shooting of Seh Daeng? Please tell us "retarded" folk on this site. |
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