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UPDATE 22:00 At 20:30, the CRES (the centre established to implement the state of emergency) had a press conference. There were three speakers, namely Satit (PM Office Minister), Panitan (Acting Govt spokesman) and Col. Sansern (CRES and Army spokesman). Satit: Protests are illegal so authorities are able to act. Govt has tried to negotiate, but reds refused to continue. The reconciliation has failed because of Thaksin's interference. As there are some protesters using weapons, the situation has resulted in people dying, injuries, and damage. We have blockaded protest. We have not yet entered the protest area. The troops do not intend to move in for crackdown, but just to increase pressure so rally will end. However, the protesters have used weapons. Troops have to protect themselves. Troops did not use weapons initially, but after coming under attack, they have had to. Rules on use of weapons have been set Rules of engagement we have set are clear, only in air, at terrorists and in self-defense. Operations will continue. If the reds stop protesting the road map can continues [BP: He didn't mention elections though] Col. Sansern: People are trying to distort info. Last 2 days, terrorists & some reds are trying 2 place pressure on authorities and use weapons. The media are only showing some photos and especially not those photos/vid of terrorists attacking the authorities. Troops are keeping distance now. If protesters violate the space, troops will use live bullets to fire low to stop them. Troops will fire if reds try to approach their positions, but will not shoot to kill. They will shot lower to the ground. 4 persons have been killed and more than 80 injured. Panitan: The government gave specific orders to security officers so as reduce the no of ppl coming into protest area (ie a blockade). Groups of persons, possibly protesters, started attacking authorities. They had no option but to respond using rules of engagement laid out which are can only use live ammunition in self-defense, to protect others, protect general public etc. We are ready to defend ourselves in court. Many areas under the control of the CRES forces. PM is willing to work with civil society forces on the roadmap. We would like to warn residents in some areas in Bangkok that there are some ppl with ill intentions who may create instability BP: More later. Aside from that Sondhi L has resigned as New Politics Party leader and is returning to the PAD. UPDATE: 21:25 BBC reports now that 4 people have died. France24 on their reporter who was shot:
UPDATE: 19:00 NYT:
WSJ:
FT talks to one red shirt leader:
BP: There is this interesting eyewitness account from the BBC.
UPDATE: 16:00: CNN:
UPDATE: 15:45: BBC:
BP: Alistair of BBC tweets it was not directly into protesters. RFI on the foreign reporter shot:
UPDATE: 15:00: Three journalists have been shot. One from Matichon, one from Voice TV (owned by Thakin's children) and another from France24 . BP: As of now, there are no confirmed reports that any are in a serious injury although TNN stated one was shot in hand (understand to be Matichon journo), another shot in the hand, and a third shot in the stomach. UPDATE: 14:00 Some tweets from Alistair of BBC who is based in Bangkok (from earliest to latest):
BP: Things are very tense. AP:
BP: More to come.
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"This is clearly a use of war weapons on the people" vs. "BP: Alistair of BBC tweets it was not directly into protesters." Clearly Alistair is not in a place to know much. What is the BBC hiring him to do, anyway? Just make spin?
Cyril Payen, a French Reporter from (?) France 24 just said on Radio-Canada (8am Eastern Time; 1ere chaƮne) that the Canadian journalist of France 24, Nelson Rand, was shot in the leg, in the hand and in the abdomen and had lost a lot of blood. Payen said he was just out of surgery and his life was no longer in danger.
this is crazy.. hell has been unleashed on the city of angels. can only imagine what will happen when the next elections come. Either way, one side will be extremely unhappy and probably not accept their defeat. Will it then be outright civil war?
Not mentioned above is that at least the last of those shots hit Nelson Rand while he was lying wounded on the ground after the first shot(s). The incident was caught on video by CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/world/2010/05/14/rivers.thailand.mayhem.cnn.html The BBC's Alastair Leithead also reports on Thai soldiers firing live rounds from their M16s through the bars of a tall park fence - at protesters some half a mile away across the park: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8682051.stm So much for the Thai government's repeated claim that they are using live rounds only in self-defence (or previously to "fire in the air") - as stated yet again by Panitan at the end of the CNN video.
Response to Don: Alistair Leithead was reporting as an eyewitness to a specific incidents at a specific times from specific locations. It is both unfair and unreasonable for you or anyone else to suggest that this reporter was "spinning" based on several tweets. Of course we have other reports from correspondents situated elsewhere in Bangkok. We are informed that soldiers were firing live rounds at civilians, that 3 journalists were hit (one 3 times). Moreover, we have two reports from at least 3 witnesses in the past 24 hours of soldiers shooting at ambulances and the wounded. It has been reported that 4 people were killed Friday, and many more were injured. These reports complement whatever Alistair saw with his own eyes, but in no way discredit -- or even contradict -- whatever Alistair happened to witness. I would urge you to reflect on your comment and then apologize to the brave man you have insulted. bp: Alistair has stated he has now seen one use of a hand gun and says it the first time he has seen one used. See https://twitter.com/aleithead/status/14089239823
Why do we keep hearing about "unarmed protesters"? Some of them are armed and are using their weapons to attack the security forces, set vehicles on fire, etc. It is very deceiving to portray the protesters and unarmed or peaceful.
Look like The Telegraph is bought by the evil one. Mr Abhisit was installed with the backing of key advisers of the royal household. His accession was tarnished from the start by the widespread belief that the same figures were behind the coup that deposed Thaksin Shinawatra, the populist prime minister in 2006. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/thailand/7725645/Ten-killed-in-Thailand-as-police-join-Red-Shirt-protest.html
It in human to see people dying just because of different opinion. Why did the governement claims that found M79 laucher and firing arm from the protester? All i can see on TV is they are throwing stone and using sling shot. End up these protester are being shot with live round. Politics are dirty games.
Before Seh Daeng was shot, they claim he is the terrorist. After he is shot, they said it prove that their speculation is right that there are terrorist out there who is shooting in to the crowd. So they claim the shot at Seh Daeng is not done by them. Do you belive what they saying?? Politics are dirty games. |
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