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Who are the nationalists now?

Who are the nationalists now?
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Nov. 07 2009 - 08:00 pm
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In the past, former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra and Thai Rak Thai were known as nationalists, but well if Thaksin was a nationalist, he often faced criticism for selling out the country. Social critic Prawase Wasi and The Manager stated Thaksin murdered the country when he sold Shin Corp. Prominent author Chris Baker has noted:

In 2001 Thaksin turns nationalist, 2004 anti-nationalist and liberal – and then he turned absolutely against everything he was before. He became the enemy of the establishment, if not a revolutionary.

BP: Would disagree slightly. Thaksin was more nationalistic prior to the 2001 general election ranting on about the IMF etc, but once he became PM, he made a couple of similar speeches - there is one notable speech around April 2001 (can't find the exact speech now, but remember concern being expressed in the foreign business community). After that, he gradually toned down his rhetoric. Would also say that Thaksin turned more neoliberal in regards to free trade agreements well before 2004 - some details of the free trade agreements and criticism of Thaksin is mentioned in this post from 2005. Of course last year during the time of the Thaksin-aligned PPP-led government the opposition Democrats and the anti-Thaksin PAD were using nationalist rhetoric to criticize PPP over Preah Vihear - see here, here and here.

Now, we hae more of the same. Have summarised an article today from Matichon below:

Dr. Buranaj, Democrat spokesman, states that when Thaksin when PM he used his position to invite investment in disputed territory.

Thepthai, Abhsit's personal spokesman, states that Chavalit and Puea Thai are using the country as a political tool. Thepthai states in relation to the 12 point Puea Thai statement that it is distortion of the truth because it defends Cambodia. Therefore, how can they still call themselves Puea Thai (which means "For Thais"). If you look at their behaviour, if they were called "Party for Cambodia) it would be more accurate with the truth (นายเทพไท กล่าวว่า ส่วนแถลงการณ์ของพรรคเพื่อไทย 12 ข้อที่ขานรับและสนับสนุนนายใหญ่นั้นถือเป็นข้อความที่บิดเบือนข้อเท็จจริง เพราะเป็นการปกป้องและแก้ต่างให้กับประเทศกัมพูชา ดังนั้นพรรคเพื่อไทยยังใช้ชื่อพรรคเพื่อไทยอยู่ได้อย่างไร ถ้าดูพฤติกรรมการของพรรคเพื่อไทยตอนนี้แล้วจะต้องเป็น "พรรคเพื่อเขมร" จะสอดคล้องกว่า).

Alongkorn, Deputy Commerce Minister, states that the government listens to all people, especially Thais who love their country. However, for traitors, the government will not listen to. Now, it is becoming clearer on who loves the country and for those who want to change their nationality, especially Thaksin. If they want to change their nationality to clearly reflect that they are on the side of foreign interests then they should do so if they see being a foreigner is better than being a Thai, including Noppadol (former Foreign Minister under the PPP-led government and Thaksin's lawyer) (นายอลงกรณ์ กล่าวว่า  รัฐบาลรับฟังทุกฝ่ายโดยเฉพาะประชาชนคนไทยที่รักชาติ ส่วนที่เป็นพวกทรยศต่อชาติจะไม่รับฟัง ตอนนี้เริ่มเห็นธาตุแท้แล้วว่า ใครรักชาติ หรือใครอยากเปลี่ยนสัญชาติก็บอกมา โดยเฉพาะพ.ต.ท.ทักษิณ ชินวัตร อดีตนายกรัฐมนตรี ถ้าอยากเปลี่ยนสัญชาติชัดเจนไปเลยว่า ยืนอยู่กับผลประโยชน์ต่างชาติหรือผลประโยชน์ประเทศไทย ก็ให้แสดงความจำนงมารวมทั้งคุณนพดล ปัทมะ อดีตรมว.ต่างป.ระเทศอย่าเห็นต่างชาติดีกว่าชาติไทย)

BP: Who are the nationalists now? No wonder those at The Nation like the Democrats.



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Comments



by SteveCM
on 11/07/2009 09:38 pm

Well, as noted previously, attaching the "traitor" label is clearly the flavour of last month, this month and many more months to come if the likes of Abhisit and his excitable spokesmen have their way.

Are you truly Thai and love your country? Or are you really a wannabe (arghhhhh!)... foreigner? Are you now or have you ever been...... a less-than convinced Thai patriot? Insane and laughable - but plainly more silliness to come. If French fries had to become "freedom fries", who knows what these people can come up with?

For some light relief, sample a song from the British (I should say English) satirist duo Flanders & Swann. For now, just the chorus:

The English, the English the English are best -
I wouldn't give tuppence for all of the rest!





by Wrigley
on 11/08/2009 12:44 am

I just don't see Thaksin's logic in accepting the position. I don't see the upside but a lot of downside risk. By the way, Bangkok Post and the Nation seem to be pouring champagne (front page BKPost)over this recent Abac poll showing a massive jump in "support" for the government--said to be the result of the government's "decisive action" on the Cambodia issue and the Thaksin appointment. I checked the poll and have my own commentary--interested to hear if others are buying the two papers assessment of the poll methodology, etc.


by Government Tool
on 11/09/2009 08:45 pm

BP -- The speech I believe you are referring to was at the opening of an ESCAP conference in Bangkok in which he said, "We are looking inward to our original strengths, unique local know how, and matching them with new marketing and communications technology." http://www.unescap.org/57/press/l_13_01.htm

NB -- According to government officials with knowledge of the situation, the speech was not the one provided him by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs. That speech was discarded by a trusted senior adviser and the speech that was delivered was one prepared by said same senior adviser. As the story goes, Thaksin saw the speech for the very first time when he was at the podium.

Perhaps this explains why the rhetoric subsequently was toned down.




by StanG
on 11/10/2009 12:10 pm
http://siampolitics.wordpress.com/

Thaksin the businessmen knows no borders, Thaksin the politician had to make his people proud, hence his regional and global ambitions, anti IMF rhetoric etc.

To be a nationalist you have to identify yourself with the nation. Thaksin sees half the country as sworn enemies instead, or pretends that they don't exist at all.

The way various sides, including PAD, has been presented in this conflict, there aren't real nationalists here yet, they are still within the boundaries of healthy patriotism.

The situation on the Cambodian side is totally different. I think they are all insane.




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