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Will there be civil war?

Will there be civil war?
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Apr. 27 2010 - 02:00 am
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Federico Ferrara, an academic from the National University of Singapore, has written a Facebook note speculating whether there will be a civil war in Thailand. Tumbler covered Federico's Facebook note, but if you don't have Facebook then you can't read it. With Ferrara's permission, the note entitled "Is Thailand Headed for Civil War?" is reproduced below:

In the past couple of days I was asked by Patrick Winn of the Global Post to comment on the likelihood that Thailand might be headed for a civil war (see http://www.globalpost.com/ dispatch/thailand/100424/r ed-shirts-thai-army). Because Patrick only had space for a couple of quotes, here is the full text of my answer (the prose was slightly amended).

When we talk about "civil war," it's important to define what it is we are talking about. Not to get too academic on this, but generally the definition of a "civil war" in the literature is taken to mean three things: 1) Violent conflict that lasts for some time (not a few days); 2) At least 1000 deaths per year; and 3) The weaker side inflicts on the stronger side at least 5% of the total fatalities [some say 10%].

Is Thailand at risk of finding itself in this situation? Possibly. The risk, however, is less of a war between civilians (yellow v. red) than it is that of a war between different parts of the Thai state. Most ominously, the violence on April 22 and on April 10 shows that there are deep splits within the security forces (between most of the police and parts of army on one side and the rest of the army on the other). Given the firepower and strength of the two sides, the conflict definitely has the potential to create mass casualties.

That being said, I don't think that a real "civil war" per the definition is especially likely, in the sense that the two sides of the security forces are unlikely to engage in open warfare with one another. The greater likelihood is that there might be more acts of sabotage by one/both groups but only sporadic and relatively low intensity fighting between one another in riot situations.

Whatever violence occurs from now on is less likely to take the form of a civil war than it is to take the form of a short-lived government-initiated crackdown of the red shirts (perhaps aided by yellow vigilantes 1976-style). At that point, there are several plausible scenarios:

1) The government quickly puts down the demonstrations; pro-red forces in army and police temporarily fade away;

2) The government encounters successful resistance and resigns; pro-establishment forces work behind the scenes to get a new government not too hostile to their interests;

3) The government puts down the red shirts in Bangkok but red shirts widen the front to other provinces;

4) Crackdown fails and red shirts seize the state with the aid of pro-red security forces.

Among these scenarios, I would say (1) and (2) are by far the most likely. Revolution (4) at this point is a very remote possibility. The only scenario that potentially leads to civil war is (3), provided that the red shirts' effort to widen the front is accompanied by wholesale mutiny by parts of the security forces (not just demonstrations in Isan). This is, I believe, extremely unlikely.

A further complication is represented by the possibility of a coup. In my estimation, however, the likelihood of a coup is greater AFTER a successful crackdown, not before. The reason is that the army already has vast latitude to launch a crackdown; because of the bloodshed that such crackdown is likely to produce, it is much more convenient for the army to stage one in a context where it has the appearance of acting under the civilian leadership. In the event that the crackdown proves bloody and deeply unpopular, the army can subsequently blame the civilian government and take over with the usual excuse of "restoring order" and "protecting the unity of the nation." Unless the coup is staged for the specific purpose of removing Anupong, it just doesn't make sense for the army to seize power and THEN crack down.

To sum up, though Thailand is at an extreme risk of experiencing more violence, the possibility of a civil war remains quite remote.
BP: Well, agree with the conclusion there is also (5), namely Abhisit and the UDD work out an agreement, but that is looking less and less likely everyday now, although this could change depending on the government.
btw, also see Patrick's article for so more quotes about the possibility of civil war.


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Comments



by Anonymous
on 04/27/2010 10:25 am

Scenarios

http://thailandtrouble.blogspot.com/2010/04/what-may-come-to-pass-scenarios.html


by Anonymous
on 04/27/2010 10:26 am

Scenarios

http://thailandtrouble.blogspot.com/2010/04/what-may-come-to-pass-scenarios.html


by patiwat
on 04/27/2010 09:26 pm

Ignore that last comment, BP - I just found the link at Tumbler's blog.


by Danny
on 05/21/2010 09:17 am

There will not be any CIVIL WAR IN THAILAND...the Thai Govt. n Thai Defense Security r capable in handling this situation...There are many ways the authorities can eliminate this situation, the Defense Forces in Thailand are very organise and Intellgience gathering r well co-ordinated...very precisely as Thai people r very KIND..the Govt..have also been very KIND to the Red Shirt..with all the Bombing, Burning and shooting by Red Trouble Makers..
they were given transport and other services and ask to go home..maybe this is the Thai way.. Metta...Compassion, loving Kindness against Voilent..as in the case of Angulimala..otherwise or in other country Internal Security Law...these Red shirts will be send to Jail for a hundred years..or just fine them 1000 US$ see who will pay for them...are thier bosses paying for them...live quietly..happily in Thailand..probelms can be solved The Thai Dharma Way..Don't make trouble..if trouble don't trouble you...there are many good places to enjoy your self in Thailand...we are coming for a holidays..




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